Discussion:
do TV 2.4GHz wireless video senders conflict with wireless LAN?
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dave @ stejonda
2005-11-27 22:59:57 UTC
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I was looking to get a wireless video sender setup (such as the One4All
AV-1720) but then I realised that it operates at the same frequency as
my wireless LAN.

Will they conflict & what will the likely effects be?

Is there an alternative wireless solution?
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Gary
2005-11-28 04:41:58 UTC
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Post by dave @ stejonda
I was looking to get a wireless video sender setup (such as the One4All
AV-1720) but then I realised that it operates at the same frequency as my
wireless LAN.
Will they conflict & what will the likely effects be?
Is there an alternative wireless solution?
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Yes they do the LAN get lower speed as signal is blocked. and the TV
pictures get flashing bursts on the screen
Jomtien
2005-11-28 06:53:56 UTC
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Post by dave @ stejonda
I was looking to get a wireless video sender setup (such as the One4All
AV-1720) but then I realised that it operates at the same frequency as
my wireless LAN.
All these domestic products use the 2.4Ghz band: that's what it's
allocated for.

You should be able to minimise interference by careful channel
selection on the videosender and wifi router.
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dave @ stejonda
2005-11-28 09:53:11 UTC
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Post by Jomtien
Post by dave @ stejonda
I was looking to get a wireless video sender setup (such as the One4All
AV-1720) but then I realised that it operates at the same frequency as
my wireless LAN.
All these domestic products use the 2.4Ghz band: that's what it's
allocated for.
You should be able to minimise interference by careful channel
selection on the videosender and wifi router.
Minimise but not remove entirely - hmmm. :(

Ahhh, but the 2.4GHz is a band of frequencies - so the video sender will
have a channel selection option and choosing other than 11 (the default
on my router) should help. Is there a linear relationship between the
channel number and actual operating frequency - ie will channel 1 be
furthest from channel 13?

Shame there isn't a second band allocated.
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spiney
2005-11-28 12:55:07 UTC
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2.4 Ghz.

Yes, video senders and some wireless LAN COFDM routers both use 2.4
Ghz. The router will adjust to interference by slowing down symbol
transmission speed (and there's still the TCP protocols protection in
higher OSI layers), but there's no easy way of stopping other direction
interfernce on the AM videosender channels (usually, you get a choice
of 3 or 4).

Some wireless LAN routers work on a different not-legal frequency band,
offhand I can't remember where, and can't see any for sale!
Brian McIlwrath
2005-11-28 14:32:15 UTC
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spiney <***@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
: Some wireless LAN routers work on a different not-legal frequency band,
: offhand I can't remember where, and can't see any for sale!

Some wireless routers work on an *ENTIRELY LEGAL* 5GHz band (802.11a) and
such equipment is widely available! (but not as common as 2.4GHz).
Ric
2005-11-30 15:57:44 UTC
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Post by Brian McIlwrath
: Some wireless LAN routers work on a different not-legal frequency band,
: offhand I can't remember where, and can't see any for sale!
Some wireless routers work on an *ENTIRELY LEGAL* 5GHz band (802.11a) and
such equipment is widely available! (but not as common as 2.4GHz).
i think what the OP is pointing out is that most wireless hardware is
capable of talking over a wide range of channels, but there are
country-specific restrictions over which ones you can legally use.
this is why a lot of linksys stuff asks you which country you're in...
dave @ stejonda
2005-11-30 17:19:41 UTC
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Post by Ric
Post by Brian McIlwrath
: Some wireless LAN routers work on a different not-legal frequency band,
: offhand I can't remember where, and can't see any for sale!
Some wireless routers work on an *ENTIRELY LEGAL* 5GHz band
(802.11a) and
such equipment is widely available! (but not as common as 2.4GHz).
i think what the OP is pointing out is that most wireless hardware is
capable of talking over a wide range of channels, but there are
country-specific restrictions over which ones you can legally use. this
is why a lot of linksys stuff asks you which country you're in...
I've just tried two video senders from Argos. The Philips was hopeless -
the picture & sound distorting as I moved around the receiving room. The
'Total Control' was much better but not good enough to spend money on. I
tried each of the channels on each. Both sets are going back in the
morning. Thanks for the advice peoples but I'd better go with wired
until technology improves.
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fred_eg_bowinatuck
2005-11-30 16:07:57 UTC
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Post by Brian McIlwrath
5GHz band (802.11a) and
such equipment is widely available! (but not as common as 2.4GHz).
I wonder why it is not as common!

http://www.networkcomputing.com/1201/1201ws1.html
Bob Lucas
2005-12-01 18:50:34 UTC
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Post by fred_eg_bowinatuck
Post by Brian McIlwrath
5GHz band (802.11a) and
such equipment is widely available! (but not as common as 2.4GHz).
I wonder why it is not as common!
http://www.networkcomputing.com/1201/1201ws1.html
The website at
http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/tutorials/article.php/1009431 provides
useful information about the differences between 802.11a, 802.11b and
802.11g.

This situation is not dissimilar to the battle for supremacy that
existed 20 years ago between Betamax and VHS video recorders. The
Sony Betamax system was reputed to be technically superior. However,
major retailers in the UK (who had links with JVC) promoted the VHS
standard and marketed a wide range of pre-recorded tapes. Market
forces restricted the availability of Betamax pre-recorded tapes. The
VHS and Betamax systems were not compatible and eventually, Betamax
died out in the UK.

A wireless LAN that operates under the 802.11a standard uses the 5GHz
frequency band, with twelve separate non-overlapping channels. As a
result, RF interference is much less likely because of the
less-crowded 5 GHz band. 802.11a can support data transmission rates
of up to 54 Mbps and in some respects, it appears to be technically
superior to the competing 802.11b and 802.11g standards.

However virtually all public Wi-fi hotspots operate under the 802.11b
standard (max speed 11 Mbps). A few hotspots operate under the later
802.11g derivative (max speed 54 Mbps). Consequently, the 802.11a
standard has become less common, because it is not compatible with
public Wi-Fi hotspots.

The 802.11b and 802.11g standards both operate within the 2.4 GHz
band. This avoids compatibility issues between b and g. A computer
with a 802.11g wireless LAN card, can use hotspots that operates under
either b or g - but will only achieve the fastest data transmission
speed, if the hotspot has also adopted 802.11g. Similarly, a laptop
with a 802.11b wireless LAN card can use a hotspot that operates under
either b or g - subject to the maximum data transmission speed of 11
Mbps for the 802.11b standard.

Most laptop computers with Wi-Fi capability have a wireless LAN card
that uses the 802.11b or 802.11g standard. A laptop computer with a
802.11a card would be unable to connect to public Wi-Fi hotspots. It
follows 802.11b or 802.11g seem destined to become de facto standards
in most environments.

bob at lucas99 dot freeserve dot co dot uk

David Millen
2005-11-28 15:19:58 UTC
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Post by Jomtien
Post by dave @ stejonda
I was looking to get a wireless video sender setup (such as the One4All
AV-1720) but then I realised that it operates at the same frequency as
my wireless LAN.
All these domestic products use the 2.4Ghz band: that's what it's
allocated for.
You should be able to minimise interference by careful channel
selection on the videosender and wifi router.
Seconded (not that anyone needs to second-guess Jomtien). I have a
Conceptronic videosender within one meter of a Belkin 802.11g WAP, and
all is well with both LAN and TV by dint of experimenting with
channels.
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Fork
2005-11-28 14:39:41 UTC
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Post by dave @ stejonda
I was looking to get a wireless video sender setup (such as the One4All
AV-1720) but then I realised that it operates at the same frequency as
my wireless LAN.
Will they conflict & what will the likely effects be?
Is there an alternative wireless solution?
I have absolutely no problem and I use both a wireless video sender
(Philips) and I have a wireless LAN. Other posters are right in that you
simply choose different channel numbers for the two devices. I get a solid
54Mbps connection reported by all of my wireless NIC's so there's
absolutely no interference whatsoever.
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Bill Wright
2005-11-28 17:18:28 UTC
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Post by Fork
I have absolutely no problem and I use both a wireless video sender
(Philips) and I have a wireless LAN. Other posters are right in that you
simply choose different channel numbers for the two devices. I get a solid
54Mbps connection reported by all of my wireless NIC's so there's
absolutely no interference whatsoever.
My dad gets terrible interference on his wireless. . .

Bill
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2005-11-28 19:40:34 UTC
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Post by dave @ stejonda
I was looking to get a wireless video sender setup (such as the One4All
AV-1720) but then I realised that it operates at the same frequency as
my wireless LAN.
Will they conflict & what will the likely effects be?
Is there an alternative wireless solution?
I have a belkin setup and I get regular interference on the TV no
matter what Channel the router or sender is switched to. It is a
regular blip across the screen.

However it is acceptable.

The worst interference is whent he microwave is on. The TV is
unwatchable and the wireless router speed drops.
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